The Tom Woods Show Ep. 2711 MAGA vs. America First: The Split Deepens
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Nov 20, 2025 Buck Johnson, host of the CounterFlow podcast, dives into the unfolding crackup of the MAGA coalition. He and Tom Woods explore Trump's surprising attacks on allies like Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Greene. They analyze the implications of recent Epstein revelations and discuss the influence of media personalities like Tucker Carlson. The conversation also touches on the inconsistency of America First policies and potential future leaders for the movement, highlighting the growing tensions within the political landscape.
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Trump's Attacks Reveal Internal Rift
- Tom Woods and Buck Johnson note Trump's recent public attacks fractured MAGA's coalition and surprised longtime supporters.
- The attacks on Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie exposed a deeper split between MAGA and America First elements.
Epstein Messaging Erodes Trust
- Tom Woods highlights Trump's inconsistent messaging on the Epstein material, alternately calling it a hoax and promising releases implicating Democrats.
- This flip-flop undermines trust among base voters who expected transparency on Epstein.
Alienation Risks Midterm Turnout
- Buck Johnson warns alienating loyal MAGA voters over rhetorical attacks risks midterm turnout and could cost elections.
- He compares dismissive rhetoric to Nixon-era complacency and fears losing crucial grassroots voters.