Are online "suicide games" real? (With Alex Goldman)
Jan 29, 2025
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Alex Goldman, host of the podcast Hyperfixed, dives into the chilling world of online suicide games like the Momo and Blue Whale Challenges. He explores the myths surrounding these trends, unpacking their origins and the media's role in spreading fear. Goldman examines how these 'challenges' have influenced youth behavior and mental health, stressing the urgent need for parental awareness. With humor and insight, he addresses the complexities of digital dangers, emphasizing open communication about the risks lurking in online spaces.
The Momo and Blue Whale challenges highlight societal panic surrounding online content, often fueled by media sensationalism and fear-mongering.
While some incidents were linked to the Blue Whale challenge, most claims lacked credible evidence, revealing a history of exaggeration.
The podcast emphasizes the need for improved internet literacy to help both parents and teenagers navigate online dangers more effectively.
Deep dives
The Momo Challenge and Its Origins
The Momo challenge originated from a creepy sculpture created by Japanese artist Kaisuke Aiso, which took on a life of its own through the internet. The viral panic began when a 2019 Instagram post by Kim Kardashian alerted parents to the dangers associated with the Momo character, which was allegedly instructing children to commit self-harm. This led to widespread fear, with reports connecting the challenge to various tragic incidents, including a suicide in Buenos Aires. As the narrative spread, it became entangled with concerns about children’s safety on platforms like YouTube, becoming a moral panic that had little basis in evidenced reality.
Media Hysteria and Police Involvement
The Momo challenge ignited significant media coverage, with police departments in various countries issuing warnings about the supposed threat. Panic escalated as stories circulated about children being influenced to harm themselves through WhatsApp messages from a Momo account. Authorities in places like India and Mexico issued alerts, further amplifying the hysteria despite a lack of substantiated evidence. This contributed to a cycle of fear as parents became increasingly vigilant about their children’s online activities, often targeting vague and sensationalized stories.
Comparative Suicide Games: Momo and Blue Whale
The podcast draws comparisons between the Momo challenge and a previous viral panic known as the Blue Whale challenge, which surfaced in Russia in 2015. While the Momo challenge primarily became a platform for fear surrounding children's safety, the Blue Whale challenge was linked to actual cases of self-harm and suicide through escalated online dares. This challenge reportedly involved indirect manipulation that compelled teens to complete increasingly dangerous tasks, with tragic consequences in some cases. Investigative reports found little credible evidence linking numerous suicides directly to this game, revealing a troubling pattern of exaggeration driven by media and public fear.
Cultural Reflections on Online Panics
The conversation underscores a cultural tendency to trace societal ills back to internet phenomena, often overlooking the deeper underlying issues, such as mental health struggles among teenagers. As the podcast reveals how folklore and tradition tie into these modern online panics, it highlights societal grief associated with tragic events manifesting through scapegoating internet culture. Such witch hunts create circular logic where the media response reinforces the very narratives they seek to debunk. The format of viral panic continues to echo historical responses to youth subcultures, illustrating enduring societal anxieties around adolescence.
Individual Responsibility versus Collective Panic
The hosts emphasize that individual agency often gets overshadowed by collective moral panic surrounding these online challenges. While families and communities are understandably distressed when tragedy strikes, the media framing tends to simplify complex issues into digestible narratives involving 'internet demons' or outside influences. This oversimplification hinders genuine understanding and helpful prevention strategies, as it divert attention from the internal struggles teens face. The podcast calls attention to the need for better internet literacy among both parents and children to navigate online content thoughtfully rather than moving into panic modes based on sensationalized reports.
Debunking Myths Surrounding Momo and Blue Whale
The podcast concludes by addressing the significance of debunking myths related to the Momo and Blue Whale challenges, emphasizing that these challenges often serve as scapegoats for larger health crises. The Momo challenge diminished in the wake of scrutiny as investigations revealed it had not produced any tangible evidence of harm, much like the Blue Whale narrative. Law enforcement cites numerous arrests of individuals accused of promoting these challenges; however, many cases lacked sufficient evidence to substantiate the claims. Ultimately, the reporting reveals an urgent necessity to put a spotlight on underlying mental health issues that drive young people toward self-destructive behavior.
Momo and the Blue Whale Challenge are two trends that targeted young social media users, supposedly challenging them to an escalating series of dares. Were these viral “challenges” actually causing kids to kill themselves, or was it all a hoax? Alex Goldman joins us to trace the origins of these “suicide games,” as well as the fallout that resulted from them.
Our guest Alex Goldman is the host of a great new podcast called Hyperfixed. Find that anywhere you listen to podcasts, and you can find him @agoldmund on Twitter/X, or just Google him!
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