The Next Wave - AI and The Future of Technology

Is Deepseek Worth the Hype?

Feb 4, 2025

The podcast discusses the rise of China's DeepSeek AI model and its impact on the global tech scene. It examines how DeepSeek's cost-effective training disrupted the stock market, leading to a dip in NVIDIA's shares. The hosts explore the biases and credibility concerns surrounding DeepSeek and compare it with other AI models like those from OpenAI. They also dive into the complexities of AI logic and biases, raising questions about the future of AI development and the implications of China's advancements in technology.

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DeepSeek R1's competitive pricing and performance challenge established AI models, signaling a pivotal shift in the global tech landscape.

The backlash against NVIDIA following DeepSeek's debut highlights market misconceptions about AI training costs and computational requirements.

Deep dives

DeepSeek and Global AI Competition

The emergence of DeepSeek R1, a new AI model developed in China, marks a significant shift in the global AI landscape. Trained on cheaper, less powerful GPUs, it has achieved performance levels comparable to leading models from well-established companies like OpenAI and Anthropic. This has raised concerns about the AI capabilities of rival nations, particularly as the U.S. enforces restrictions on the technology accessible to China. The rapid advancements showcased by DeepSeek indicate a competitive race between China and the U.S. in AI development, potentially impacting the future of technology and economy.

Intro

3min

Decoding AI Model Training and Market Dynamics

14min

Unpacking DeepSeek: Credibility and Controversies

5min

Exploring AI Logic and Taiwan's Controversial Status

2min

AI Biases and Logic Challenges

12min

The Accelerating Landscape of AI Innovation

2min

The Race to Artificial Superintelligence: Implications and Speculations

2min

Episode 44: How impactful is the debut of China's AI model, DeepSeek, on the global tech landscape? Matt Wolfe (https://x.com/mreflow) and Nathan Lands (https://x.com/NathanLands) unravel everything you need to know about DeepSeek R1 in this episode, where they also dive deep on how it made waves in the stock market and stirred up conversations across the globe.

This episode dissects the recent frenzy surrounding DeepSeek R1, breaking down why its cost-effective training method shook the tech industry and led to a dramatic decrease in NVIDIA's stock price. Matt and Nathan guide you through their firsthand experiences using the model, exploring its biases, and discuss the implications of China's progress in AI. Plus, they speculate on what this could mean for the future of AI development as other major players strive to keep up.

Check out The Next Wave YouTube Channel if you want to see Matt and Nathan on screen: https://lnk.to/thenextwavepd

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Show Notes:

(00:00) DeepSeek R1: AI Bias Exploration
(04:23) Speculation on AI Usage Claims
(07:28) Jevons Paradox and AI Demand
(10:05) New AI Models from China
(14:41) Mismatch Between Hype and Reality
(17:57) DeepSeek's Viral Rise Analysis
(19:59) Local DeepSteak R1 Model Test
(24:34) Game Design Collaboration Limitations
(28:28) Endless Logic Problem Loop
(30:35) Weekend AI Innovation Skepticism
(32:19) Reinforcement Learning Model Fine-Tuning

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Mentions:

Get the guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/tnw

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Check Out Matt’s Stuff:

• Future Tools - https://futuretools.beehiiv.com/

• Blog - https://www.mattwolfe.com/

• YouTube- https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow

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Check Out Nathan's Stuff:

Newsletter: https://news.lore.com/
Blog - https://lore.com/

The Next Wave is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by The HubSpot Podcast Network // Production by Darren Clarke // Editing by Ezra Bakker Trupiano

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The Next Wave - AI and The Future of Technology

Is Deepseek Worth the Hype?