Fresh Air 'Hacks' Returns! With Jean Smart, Hannah Einbinder, Paul W. Downs
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Apr 11, 2025 
Jean Smart stars as Deborah Vance in the hit series 'Hacks', while Hannah Einbinder portrays her young comedy writer, Ava. They discuss the generational clash between old-school humor and modern sensitivities. The duo reflects on their creative journeys and the evolution of comedy, navigating themes of cancel culture and changing audience expectations. They also share insights on the show's new season and the challenges women face in comedy today, sparking laughter and poignant moments about the industry's landscape.
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Bad Jokes
- Jean Smart enjoys delivering both funny and bad jokes as Deborah Vance.
- One favorite involves a woman in bed with a man asking "Are you close?"
Generational Clash
- Deborah views Ava's generation as prioritizing shock over clever humor.
- Smart was initially intimidated by Hannah Einbinder's stand-up experience.
Fargo Audition
- Jean Smart's audition for Fargo featured a powerful speech about her character's life.
- The speech revealed much about the character, making Smart eager to play her.