S4E49 - It’s No Fun Being Poor

Mar 24, 2025

The discussion kicks off with a look at CODA, showcasing how opportunity can transform lives. McKay highlights the impactful work of building wells in the Congo, emphasizing the role of education in overcoming poverty. He shares personal stories about the limitations of being poor, before outlining his three markers of wealth: being debt-free, having savings, and giving back. Practical tips for cutting expenses and boosting income are shared, along with a strategy to pay off debts efficiently. Ultimately, McKay reminds us that life is far more enjoyable without the burden of debt.

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CODA: Choice That Changes A Family

McKay recounts the film CODA where Ruby chooses between family obligation and a music career that lifts her family out of poverty.
The family's new understanding and community support transform their poverty into broader inclusion and opportunity.

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Wells In Congo Spark Health And Imagination

McKay tells how his friend built wells in the Republic of Congo and taught sanitation so villagers could maintain them.
Clean water reduced disease and sparked curiosity about science and innovation in those communities.

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From Laundromat Room To Success

McKay describes growing up poor, working through college, and living in a laundromat back room like mentor Frank Vandersloot.
That hardship shaped work ethic and later success without defining personal worth by money.

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This week on Open Your Eyes, McKay talks about why it’s no fun being poor. He opens up the episode by recounting the plot of the Oscar Award winning film, CODA, in which the protagonist's family rises above the poverty line and comes to live a much more fulfilled life as a result. Next McKay talks about his friend’s work building wells in the Republic of Congo and educating the community about maintenance and education. McKay remarks that this education and access gave Congan people the opportunity to rise above their water scarcity and focus on growing other areas of wealth.

These two stories lead to McKay listing his three markers for wealth: a complete lack of debt, having savings to provide for an emergency, and having 10% of your wealth to give away. He urges the audience to do so by cutting monthly spending in half, increasing monthly income, paying off your lowest debt balances, and eventually paying off your mortgage. A lack of debt fuels confidence and contentment in life, and McKay concludes the episode by reminding us all that it isn’t fun to be poor, but it’s extremely fun being debt free.

The Finer Details of This Episode:

The synopsis of Apple’s CODA
Building wells in the Republic of Congo
The three components of wealth
The importance of cutting monthly spending
Increasing your monthly income
Paying off debt
How a lack of debt fuels confidence

Quotes:

“The truth is, it's no fun to be poor. And another truth is: no one has to be.”

“Bringing people from poverty has as much to do with their learning and understanding as it does about them actually having materials for wealth.”

“You're wealthy if you're completely debt free, you have adequate savings to provide for you and your family if you stopped working, and you're able to give away 10% of what you earn.”

“Don’t buy it unless you can pay cash for it.”

“By cutting monthly spending and adding monthly income, paying off the lowest debt balances first, and then applying that to your mortgage, you're soon out of debt. “

“I've seen people with a lot of things who are emotionally and spiritually poor, because they believe what they have defines who they are.”

“The peace and security of being out of debt is worth so much. As I mentioned, it teaches you to be content, to stop using debt to satisfy your wants; it sets the course for a life of frugality and humility.”

Links:

Open Your Eyes with McKay Christensen