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Degrowth, Malthus, and the Climate Crisis (w/ Giorgos Kallis)

Mar 13, 2024
Professor Giorgos Kallis discusses degrowth economics, challenging the relentless pursuit of GDP growth. They explore Thomas Malthus' flawed ideas and the importance of societal structure for a sustainable future. The podcast also covers the subjective nature of limits, ancient Greek societal structures, and the need for a shift towards degrowth to address climate change.
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Quick takeaways

  • The focus on economic growth has led to negative environmental impacts globally, challenging the idea of continuous growth as a measure of success.
  • De-Growth economics questions the notion of absolute external limits, emphasizing human responsibility in setting boundaries for sustainable living.

Deep dives

Malthus and De-Growth Movement

Malthus, an influential figure, argued for inevitable inequality due to population growth. The De-Growth movement challenges notions of eternal growth and material accumulation. Technology's role in progress is viewed optimistically, acknowledging its importance in transitioning towards practices like renewable energy.

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