The Bill Simmons Podcast

DeRay Mckesson on Ending Police Brutality, Plus 'Flying Coach' With Steve Kerr, Pete Carroll, and Gregg Popovich

Jun 3, 2020

DeRay Mckesson, a civil rights activist known for his work with Campaign Zero, discusses systematic reforms to combat police brutality. He emphasizes data-driven solutions and community-led initiatives. Joining him are coaches Steve Kerr, Pete Carroll, and Gregg Popovich, who candidly address the state of race relations in America, their personal responsibilities, and the importance of dialogue with their players. The conversation highlights the need for actionable change and the evolution of leadership in sports and society.

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Episode notes

Intro

4min

Addressing Police Brutality: Strategies for Change

4min

Reassessing Police Practices: Chokeholds to Community Policing

15min

Local Policing vs. Federal Authority

5min

Voices of Activism in Minneapolis

6min

Reimagining Safety and Police Reform

9min

Promoting Activism and Broadcasting Education

3min

Coaches Confront Race and Responsibility

22min

Leadership and Reconciliation: Lessons from Germany's Post-Holocaust Journey

2min

10.

Advocating for Social Justice in Education

23min

11.

Evolving Leadership in Sports

14min

12.

Lessons from Legendary Coaches on Team Culture and Authenticity

4min

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by civil rights activist and podcaster DeRay Mckesson to discuss a plan he and his team at Campaign Zero have been working on to systematically reform police departments to combat police brutality. They discuss how the use of recently obtained data, education, and smart solutions can help bring about these changes (3:45). Then, Steve Kerr and Pete Carroll are joined by San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich to have a conversation about the state of our nation, how we got here as a country, our absence of leadership, and how we can take action to grow and bring about change following the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer (46:17).

Here are links to resources that DeRay recommends podcast listeners explore:

joincampaignzero.org

policescorecard.org

checkthepolice.org

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