AI, Agents & Chess Moves: Rethinking Business with Alan Trefler

In this episode, David Savage is joined by Alan Trefler, founder and CEO of Pegasystems. With over four decades of leadership at the helm of a billion-dollar software company, Alan offers a rare combination of deep technical insight and strategic foresight. They discuss the evolving landscape of AI—from statistical models to generative agents—and what it really takes to deliver ROI, resilience, and reliable transformation. Alan also shares bold leadership lessons and his unfiltered take on tech hype.

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