The Truth About Being a Lead Dad with Author and Former New York Times Journalist, Paul Sullivan

Before starting The Company of Dads in 2021, Paul Sullivan was a journalist for 25 years, the last 13 at The New York Times where he wrote the Wealth Matters column and oversaw several special sections. He is the author of two books Clutch: Why Some People Excel Under Pressure and Others Don’t and The Thin Green Line: The Money Secrets of The Super Wealthy.

In this episode, Paul Sullivan, journalist, and author talks about his 600 columns over 25 years writing for the New York Times, his most recent book The Thin Green Line: The Money Secrets of the Super Wealthy, and how Covid-19 has changed his career path. Through his columns, Paul was able to gain insight into the world of wealthy people which led him to write The Thin Green Line. He discusses the differences between being wealthy and being merely rich, whether or not another washout period is coming and how fathers who are the go-to parent in their families can lack a sense of community and support. This conversation also explores Paul's experience of reconnecting with old friends due to the Covid-19 lockdown, creating an intentional community for friendship, especially in the later stages of life and his evening ritual for winding down from the day. He encourages listeners to check out The Company of Dads to learn more about fatherhood questions and connect with other fathers globally. Tune into this episode to hear from Paul Sullivan on all things money secrets of the super-wealthy!

[00:01 - 11:12] Paul Sullivan: From New York Times Columnist to Author of "The Thin Green Line"

• Paul’s book "The Thin Green Line" is about the money secrets of the super wealthy
• Paul's work was more anthropological than personal finance
• The framework of the book is based on the four things you can do with money
• How Covid led to the creation of the Company of Dads

[11:13 - 23:36] Navigating the Challenges of Fatherhood in the Covid Era

• The Company of Dads is a multi-pronged approach to normalize the lead dad experience
• It includes media content, a podcast, a newsletter, a private community, etc.
• Loneliness is a real problem for 45-55-year-old men
• The long-term vision for the organization is to be the go-to site for all fatherhood questions
• Company of Dads has an overarching community with a franchise model for different communities and towns

[23:36 - 32:48] Exploring the Changing Role of Fatherhood

• 40 to 45 million men in America are either full-time at-home dads or have wives who outearn them
• Men are carving out a space for themselves to explore and be open and vulnerable with their feelings
• Men look for entry points into conversations, like golf, to connect with others

[32:49 - 35:26] Closing Segment

Quotes:

"Most personal finance books are like diets. They tell you what not to do and you can sustain it through January and February and then by March you're back you know binge eating chocolate rice Krispies at midnight." - Paul Sullivan

“It is really hard to get the capital. Once you've succeeded and that business is humming along, any bank will lend you.“ - Paul Sullivan

Connect with Paul by visiting www.TheCompanyOfDads.com, or email him at paul@thecompanyofdads.com. 

Connect with me:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-c-adams/ (LinkedIn)

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