Journalist Michael Tracey joins Scott to talk about Trump’s 2024 campaign. Tracey argues that the anti-establishment credentials of Trump are often overblown, and that when one takes an unemotional look at what a second Trump term is likely to deliver, it’s not anything to get excited about. He and Scott also discuss the campaign of Kamala Harris.

Michael Tracey is a New York-based journalist. You can find his writing on Substack and follow him on Twitter @mtracey

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