When it came to writing a second book, Osher hadn’t lived enough since the extra bits were added to the second edition of his memoir to write another memoir based on only five years.

Instead, he wrote the book he wished he had during times when his mental health wasn’t doing well. It’s the kind of book one grabs when they’ve tried everything else but still feel stuck, or they’re trying to understand how someone they care about keeps going in circles, and things seem to be getting worse. It’s specifically written for people who aren’t used to asking for help or are concerned that asking for help might impact them negatively.

To ensure the book is as powerful as possible, Osher worked with an eminent Australian psychologist to make sure all the messages and techniques are legitimate. Some of the content is quite complicated, so to make things easier to understand, he wanted to use illustrations. While Osher isn’t bad at sketching, he isn’t an artist.

There was only one artist Osher wanted to work with, someone who could understand what he was trying to do and who would get the concepts he wanted to put on the page. That person is the legendary Campbell Walker aka @struthless69, who joins us today.

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