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Lex Fridman Podcast

#82 – Simon Sinek: Leadership, Hard Work, Optimism and the Infinite Game

Mar 21, 2020
In this engaging discussion, Simon Sinek, renowned author of "Start With Why" and "The Infinite Game," delves into the essence of leadership. He shares insights on viewing life as an infinite game, where relationships and lasting impact matter more than competition. Sinek explores the interplay of mortality and legacy, encouraging listeners to create meaning beyond their years. He also highlights the balance between hard work and self-care, advocating for sustainable leadership practices that prioritize team well-being, ultimately fostering a culture of optimism and purpose.
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Quick takeaways

  • The concept of finite and infinite games and the negative outcomes that result when organizations prioritize winning in an infinite game.
  • The importance of having a just cause, living a life of service, and striving towards idealistic goals in order to find fulfillment and meaning in life.

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The concept of finite and infinite games

Simon Sinek discusses the concept of finite and infinite games. Finite games have fixed rules, agreed-upon objectives, and known players, while infinite games have changing rules, unknown players, and the objective of perpetuating the game. Winning is not possible in an infinite game because there is no finish line or agreed-upon metrics. Sinek explains that when organizations focus on winning in an infinite game, it leads to negative outcomes such as a decline in trust, cooperation, and innovation.

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