Guests: Matthew Spalding & Joy Pullmann

Host Scot Bertram talks with Matthew Spalding, vice president of Washington Operations and dean of the Van Andel Graduate School of Government at Hillsdale College, about the life and impact of James Madison before his presidency. And Joy Pullmann, executive editor at The Federalist, reveals the efforts by activists to replace patriotism with loyalty to queer politics and shares details from her new book False Flag: Why Queer Politics Mean the End of America.

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