Natalie Brunell is joined by Joe Carlasare, commercial litigator, long-time Bitcoiner, and macro analyst, for a discussion on the economy running hot in 2026 and why Bitcoin's traditional four-year cycle may be over. Topics:

Why Bitcoin's 4-year cycle is breaking down
Why OG selling at $100K changed the price action
Gold vs Bitcoin and capital rotation
Why political instability is the real systemic risk
Predictions for 2026

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