This episode is for anyone interested in raising their hand.

Jenna Arnold is an educator, entrepreneur, activist and mother who lives in New York City, and her new book is Raising Our Hands: How White Women Can Stop Avoiding Hard Conversations, Start Accepting Responsibility, and Find Our Place on the New Front Lines.

In this BONUS episode, Jenna and I talk through a few of the reasons white women statistically stay silent about important issues: perfection, performance, and peacekeeping.

I really liked Jenna's book and am excited to share this conversation with you.

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BONUS: How white women can stop avoiding hard conversations. (A conversation with Jenna Arnold)