Jim VandeHei, Co-founder of Axios, dives deep into the shifting political landscape and media dynamics, while James Stavridis, retired four-star Admiral, shares invaluable insights on national security. The duo discusses the complexities surrounding UFO sightings and their political ramifications. They emphasize the importance of the rule of law, explore the implications of military strategies, and shed light on women's rights in the armed forces. Their conversation also touches on the urgent need to aid refugees amid global challenges.