#19. Ryan Pouwells - Peak Podcast (Fearlessly Authentic)

I first met Ryan a few years ago when he joined Clicks&Copy University. At the time, we didn’t know we lived in the same city. 

But after a copywriting video inside CCU accidentally revealed a portion of my postal code (oops), Ryan put two and two together and reached out: 

“Dudeeeee… we literally live so close to each other.”

After that realization, we met up for a walk around the seawall and a legendary sushi dinner that lasted for hours, covering a  range of talking points from spirituality to 75HARD to business to copywriting and pretty much everything in between. 

Since then, we’ve become good friends and have kicked it on a variety of occasions and after every hang out we’ve stated:

“Bro, we should’ve recorded that convo. It was FIRE.” 

But we never did. 

One because it just never worked out and two because we thought: By recording it, it would somehow not come across as natural and wouldn’t be as good. 

So we left it at that. 

Then a few years passed and we both continued with our business journey (I continued doing my thing and Ryan went deeper into the world of sales) and also joined the Diamond Approach – a spiritual school for realization and embodiment. 

By doing so, our inner journey’s continued to unfold and our capacity to be more real increased greatly as well. This, in return, led to even more richness in our conversations and interactions – whether it was in person or online calls. 

Finally, we decided: 

“Enough is enough. Let’s run a pod, record these epic convos, and see wtf happens.” 

So that’s exactly what we did. 

And the result? 

I had zero expectations coming into this (never do), but I left feeling high as a kite and with two words running through my mind: PEAK PODCAST. 

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Now I’m super stoked to bring it to your ears. 

I think you’ll greatly enjoy this one because it’s super real, raw, sincere, and flowed epically (with pauses of deep silence and stillness all throughout). 

We went wherever the conversation took us:

From unpacking a recent Diamond Approach retreat we just finished to inquiring into the immediacy of our present moment experience to the world of business and sales. 

All in all, it was a complete blast. 

Give it a listen and let me know what you think? 

Your friend, 

/tej 

p.s. You can find more about Ryan here: 

https://settercentral.co/