The Resilient Leaders Podcast with J.R. Briggs

Ep 318 – Leadership is Plumbing & Poetry

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Jan 14, 2026
Explore the fascinating duality of leadership through the lenses of plumbing and poetry. Plumbing represents the essential skills of competence and coordination, ensuring operational efficiency. In contrast, poetry embodies inspiration, meaning, and vision that ignite growth in others. A unique analogy compares these concepts to the difference between a solid structure and an inviting home. Challenge yourself to identify if you're more of a poet or a plumber and learn how to enhance your leadership skills in both realms.
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INSIGHT

Leadership Has Two Complementary Dimensions

  • James March frames leadership as two essential dimensions: plumbing and poetry, representing competence and meaning-making.
  • Effective leaders must manage daily systems while also inspiring purpose and interpretation.
INSIGHT

Poetry Creates Meaning And Reduces Fear

  • Poetry in leadership uses words and vision to create meaning and motivation for collective action.
  • When power is used to help others blossom, its charm grows while fear diminishes.
ADVICE

Assess And Grow Your Non‑Default Skill

  • Identify whether you default toward plumbing (skills) or poetry (meaning) by asking trusted others.
  • Intentionally develop the less-natural dimension through learning and reflection this season.
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