Commonwealth Club of California Podcast

Jeffrey Rosen: The Pursuit of Liberty

Nov 29, 2025
Join Jeffrey Rosen, President and CEO of the National Constitution Center and law professor, as he explores the enduring clash between Hamilton's desire for a strong federal government and Jefferson's emphasis on individual liberties. Dive into how these foundational debates influenced pivotal moments in American history, from Lincoln's fight against slavery to modern presidential powers. Rosen also examines the relevance of these ideas today, the complexities of constitutional interpretations, and the importance of restoring civil discourse in political discussions.
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INSIGHT

Founders' Fundamental Clash

  • Hamilton and Jefferson agreed on liberty but differed on balancing power and liberty.
  • That core clash shaped U.S. debates about national power, states' rights, and executive strength.
ANECDOTE

Dinner-Table Spark For Parties

  • At a dinner Hamilton joked the greatest man who ever lived was Julius Caesar, alarming Jefferson.
  • Jefferson recorded that Hamilton's comment proved he favored monarchy, spurring partisan division.
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Executive Terms And Founders' Fears

  • Founders debated term length and executive strength to prevent demagogues from seizing power.
  • The resulting precedents (two-term tradition) later became constitutional law via the 22nd Amendment.
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