This week, Jen tells Pete all about her new hobby, and together they dive in to the positive aspects of snorkeling on land.

Specifically, in this episode Jen and Pete talk about:

What lessons from snorkeling in the sea can be brought to land?
What are some areas we may take for granted in our lives?
How might we renew our curiosity and observance of our surroundings?

To hear all episodes and read full transcripts, visit The Long and The Short Of It website: https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/.

You can subscribe to our Box O’ Goodies here (https://thelongandtheshortpodcast.com/) and receive a weekly email full of book and podcast recommendations, quotes, videos, and other interesting things that Jen and Pete are noodling on.

To get in touch, send an email to: hello@thelongandtheshortpodcast.com.

Learn more about Pete's work here (https://humanperiscope.com/) and Jen's work here (https://jenwaldman.com/).

President Carter halts production of neutron bombs - April 7th, 1978