Jonathan Lemire, White House Bureau Chief at Politico, and Zannie Minton-Bettos, Editor-in-chief of The Economist, tackle pressing political issues. They discuss Trump's new immigration strategy and its implications for loyalty within the administration. The conversation shifts to the geopolitical landscape, highlighting challenges in Middle Eastern diplomacy. They also explore the impact of Roe v. Wade's overturn, autism awareness in media, and the growing disconnect between elite perceptions and working-class voters. A deep dive into democracy’s evolving landscape concludes the dialogue.