408 | Mathias Döpfner: Escaping the Trade Trap - How to Stop Doing Business with Dictators

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Mathias Döpfner, Chairman & CEO of Axel Springer SE, the biggest digital publisher in Europe and owner of U.S. media brands Insider, Morning Brew, and Politico, joins The Realignment. Mathias is the author of a new book: The Trade Trap: How to Stop Doing Business with Dictators. Marshall and Mathias discuss his proposal for a new trade regime based upon a values-based alliance of democracies, the cost of doing business with dictators, Germany's revamped post-Ukraine invasion foreign policy, and how encounters with figures from Vladimir Putin to Jack Ma shaped the book's perspective.