The Jamie & Donna Winship Podcast

In the Face of Uncertainty: Choosing Love, Unity, and Sacrifice Over Control

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Jan 20, 2026
Join Jamie and Donna as they share powerful insights from their travels in Istanbul and Amman, where they confronted deep-seated fear and conflict. Discover how fear is not innate but learned, stemming from false beliefs about scarcity and separation. They advocate embracing life's mysteries with perfect love as a remedy for fear. Through small acts of kindness and true identity in Christ, they illustrate how we can build resilient communities, foster reconciliation, and choose love over violence even in challenging times.
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ANECDOTE

Training Rooms Filled With Global Grief

  • Jamie and Donna describe trainings in Istanbul and Amman with participants from many nations witnessing deep fear and weeping over war and loss.
  • They observed how global unrest surfaced long-held wounds and blame in the room.
INSIGHT

Mystery Triggers The Drive For Certainty

  • Uncertainty itself isn't the problem; the rush to manufacture certainty breeds blame and violence.
  • Jamie links inability to embrace mystery with the drive toward scapegoating and conflict.
INSIGHT

Fear Is Mostly Learned — Not Fixed

  • Donna asserts most fears are learned, not innate, so they can be unlearned or overridden.
  • She challenges believers to ask what they're truly afraid of given God's promises.
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