
The Pete Quiñones Show Episode 1204: Continental Philosophy and Its Origins - Pt. 2 - Thucydides and the Peloponnesian War w/ Thomas777
Apr 22, 2025
Thomas777, a revisionist historian and fiction writer, dives deep into the intricate links between Continental Philosophy and historical narratives. He unpacks Thucydides' insights on military science, revealing parallels between ancient Athenian failures and modern political ideologies. The discussion on Socrates' trial illustrates his transformative impact on Athenian ethics, challenging existing moral frameworks. Thomas also critiques the relevance of traditional institutions today, highlighting their role in shaping justice and personal responsibility.
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Athens' Fall Linked to Lost Virtue
- Thucydides viewed the fall of Athens as a consequence of abandoning core virtues, not military failure alone.
- The Athenians' destruction was tied to moral decline and loss of their cultural integrity.
Key War Events Undermined Athens
- Critical events in the Peloponnesian War symbolized the political and moral breakdown of Athens.
- The siege and massacre in Melos and the Sicilian disaster destroyed Athenian credibility and strength.
Athens' Ruthless Pursuit of Power
- Athens sought absolute military dominance even at the cost of enslaving fellow Greeks.
- This desire for power led to ruthless actions and moral degradation, foreshadowing their downfall.



