Psychedelics, Purpose & the Next Chapter of John Mackey’s Life

What does it really take to start over at 69?

In this inspiring episode, Whole Foods founder John Mackey shares how psychedelics, purpose, and love reshaped his path after selling to Amazon.From ego death to building Love Life wellness centers, he opens up about business regrets, spiritual breakthroughs, and midlife transformation. You'll learn how conscious capitalism evolves with age—and why love might be the ultimate business strategy.

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Timestamps:00:00 Intro00:27 Meet John Mackey01:27 Psychedelics, Ego Death, and Food as Purpose07:44 Love, Breakups, and Big Business Shifts08:37 Austin in the '70s and Building Whole Foods10:40 Advice to His Younger Self12:34 From Atheism to Spiritual Adventure14:36 What Is Conscious Capitalism?17:15 How Whole Foods Revolutionized Grocery Stores19:28 Learning to Communicate with Kindness21:46 Selling Whole Foods to Amazon28:17 Why He Finally Left Whole Foods29:25 Healing Journey Through Plant Medicine31:28 What Is Love Life?37:56 Psychodelics as Therapeutic Method40:21 Challenges and Financial Realities43:21 Longevity Myths and What Actually Works47:49 Redefining Retirement with Purpose49:54 What He’d Regret Not Doing52:09 Wisdom Bumper Sticker55:33 Final Reflections

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