
Boston Public Radio Podcast BPR Full Show 1/21: Bridging The Divide Through Service
Jan 21, 2026

Guest
Jared Bowen

Guest
Juliana Hatfield

Guest
Juliette Kayyem

Guest
Joe Kearns Goodwin

Guest
Doris Kearns Goodwin
Jared Bowen, GBH culture editor who covers arts and TV. Juliana Hatfield, longtime Boston indie singer-songwriter promoting Lightning Might Strike and performing live. Juliette Kayyem, national security expert on international trust and Greenland. Joe Kearns Goodwin, Army veteran reflecting on service and civic ties. Doris Kearns Goodwin, presidential historian on public service and civic engagement. They discuss culture, national security, live music, and whether service can bridge divides.
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The Mechanics Of Political Exhaustion
- Constant exposure to lying and spectacle causes civic fatigue and narrows public attention.
- Jim Braude calls this 'Trump exhaustion' where the public chases shiny distractions and democracy erodes.
Counter Exhaustion By Acting
- When you feel politically exhausted, take concrete action instead of only venting.
- Jim Braude urges listeners to 'do something' like protests, calling reps, or joining local resistance groups.
Pastor's Community Coping Story
- Amy, a pastor caller, urges leaning into community and neighbor networks to sustain resistance.
- She recommends potlucks, local rapid-response groups, and daily civic connection to avoid burnout.





