Joel Pearson, a psychologist and neuroscientist, explores consciousness, dualism, theories on information processing, free will, language complexity, and redefining intelligence for AI systems. The podcast delves into the mysteries of the brain and its connection to consciousness, while also discussing the limitations of intuition and the prevalence of unstable individuals online.
Consciousness emerges from the complexity of the human brain, resulting in our subjective experience of being aware and conscious.
Currently, there is no evidence to indicate that AI possesses consciousness, although their embodiment in robotic systems may revolutionize AI capabilities.
The advancements in AI raise concerns about the potential impact on human psychology, mental health, and society, as well as the ethical considerations in the development and deployment of AI.
Deep dives
The Complexity of Consciousness
Consciousness, the ability to be self-aware and sentient, is a riddle that philosophers and scientists have been pondering for centuries. Joel Pearson, founder of the Brain and Mind Lab, explores the idea that consciousness emerges from the complexity of the human brain, with its billions of neurons and intricate connections. According to Pearson, consciousness is an emergent property of this complexity, resulting in our subjective experience of being aware and conscious. While theories like panpsychism propose that consciousness is fundamental to all matter, Pearson acknowledges that we don't yet have the evidence to support such claims.
The Challenges of Artificial Intelligence (AI)
Questions about whether an artificial system, such as AI, can develop consciousness raise complex debates. Pearson suggests that there is currently no evidence to indicate that AI possesses consciousness. Although AI systems may exhibit intelligence and perform tasks that humans consider smart, their strengths and weaknesses differ greatly from human intelligence. Furthermore, the embodiment of AI in robotic systems may usher in a new era of learning, as they can interact with the world and learn through firsthand experiences. This new approach to learning may revolutionize AI capabilities, but the future implications remain uncertain.
The Implications and Concerns of AI Advancements
As AI continues to advance, it raises pressing concerns about its potential impact on human psychology, mental health, and society as a whole. Deepfake technology, for example, raises questions about identity, memory, and the malleability of personal perception. Additionally, the seamless interaction between humans and AI creatures that mimic sentience may have unforeseen effects on human cognition and behavior. The rapid progress and lack of thorough ethical considerations in the development and deployment of AI raise concerns about our ability to adapt and understand the implications of these advancements.
The Science of Intuition
The first half of the podcast explores the scientific definition of intuition: the learned productive use of unconscious information for better decisions or actions. It highlights the importance of self-awareness, mastery, distinguishing between instinct and addiction, being mindful of probabilities, and considering environmental context when utilizing intuition.
The Implications of AI and Consciousness
The second half of the podcast delves into the potential consequences of artificial intelligence (AI) and the ethics surrounding conscious AI. It explores the possibility of AI becoming sentient, the implications of mistreating AI if it attains consciousness, and the responsibility we may have to AI as creators. The discussion also touches on the challenges of understanding consciousness and the potential ramifications of creating a race of intelligent, feeling AI creatures.
How does the moist grey meat between your ears create the kaleidoscope of sensations you experience as your life? How do other animals experience the world? And will A.I. ever feel like something?
Joel Pearson is a psychologist and neuroscientist who runs the Future Minds Lab at the University of New South Wales and is in charge of Innovation & Enterprise in their school of psychology. His new book is "The Intuition Toolkit: The New Science of Knowing What without Knowing Why."