Stuff They Don't Want You To Know Interview: Conversate, with Killer Mike, Chapter One: Conspiracies and Consequence
Nov 5, 2025
Killer Mike, a legendary MC and activist from Atlanta, joins the conversation to delve into pressing issues of justice and community empowerment. He discusses the dark history of the Atlanta child murders and reflects on its impact on childhood vigilance. The talk shifts to the 13th Amendment, examining its loopholes and how they perpetuate exploitation. Killer Mike emphasizes the importance of grassroots organizing, shared understanding across classes, and the need for robust free speech to safeguard democracy.
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How Conversate Got Started
- Ramsey encouraged Killer Mike into podcasting, supplying equipment and support to launch Conversate.
- Mike credits curiosity and coaching for turning his conversational skill into a sustained show.
Growing Up During The Atlanta Child Murders
- Killer Mike recalls the Atlanta child murders era when kids disappeared and communities lived in fear.
- He describes how patterns of neighborhood vigilance, chain gangs, and later the crack era reshaped community life.
13th Amendment Enables Modern Forced Labor
- The 13th Amendment's "except for punishment" clause enables modern forced labor through mass incarceration.
- Killer Mike connects that loophole to private prisons, economic incentives, and racially skewed sentencing.
