

Episode 207: Owen Jones
Jan 11, 2025
British journalist Owen Jones joins the discussion, offering sharp insights on Elon Musk's influence in U.K. politics and the rising far-right Reform Party. They dive into the absurdities of political dialogue, contrasting white working-class challenges in both America and England. Jones critiques the manipulative power of wealth in democracy and the shifting legacy of political figures like Trump and Obama. He also touches on his upcoming book, which seeks to redefine Western societal narratives and values amidst current crises.
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Interactions at Carter's Funeral
- At Jimmy Carter's funeral, Trump and Obama sat next to each other and appeared to have a pleasant conversation.
- George W. Bush pointedly ignored Trump, highlighting the fractured relationship within the Republican party.
Obama's Priorities
- Obama's cordial behavior towards Trump at the funeral may indicate that defeating Trump wasn't his main political priority.
- His focus has been preserving his own legacy, potentially at the expense of addressing the threat of Trumpism.
Trump's Imperialism and Democratic Capitulation
- Trump's desire to acquire Greenland and other territories reveals his imperialist ambitions and disregard for international law.
- Fetterman's accommodating response demonstrates a concerning trend of Democrats capitulating to Trump's agenda.