In this interview Prof. Sandro Mezzadra was kind enough to take the time to speak to me during the Critical Legal Conference 2019 in Perugia, Italy. We mainly speak about his book "Border as Method" with Brett Neilson, but also his newest book "The Politics of Operations". Once again thank you to Sandro and the staff of the CLC for making this possible! Nico Buitendag: https://linktr.ee/undisciplined