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613: Driscoll, Dawkins, & Political Discipleship with Curtis Chang

Apr 17, 2024

Curriculum developer Curtis Chang discusses aligning New Atheists with Christian Nationalists, Mark Driscoll's removal from a conference, and a Florida man's Bible tower climb. They explore Richard Dawkins as a 'cultural Christian,' launch 'The After Party' to focus on hope and humility in politics, and emphasize the importance of engaging with politics through God's kingdom values.

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Curtis Chang stresses the need for Christians to engage in politics by embodying Kingdom values like humility and hope, rather than being swayed by partisan viewpoints.

The After Party curriculum aims to guide Christians in thoughtful political engagement by prioritizing the 'how' of politics over the 'what', focusing on relational aspects and virtues like hope and humility.

Church leaders must prioritize spiritual formation in addressing political issues within congregations to prevent members from being influenced by external sources, emphasizing the importance of shaping political views through Kingdom values.

Deep dives

Filling the Void in Spiritual Formation

Curtis Chang discusses how spiritual formation occurs when the church addresses neglected areas; he highlights the impact of avoiding political discussions in churches as seen through malformation by political media.

The New Spin on an Old Heresy

01:09

Respect for Different Faiths and Cultures

01:41

Hope and Humility Quadrant

01:27

Addressing Offense in Public Settings

01:33

Introduction

5min

Bizarre Bible Tower Climbing Incident

9min

Controversial Conference Opening and Cancellation

3min

Spectacles and Spiritual Warfare

6min

Exploring Richard Dawkins and Cultural Christianity

27min

Exploring Human Limitations, Podcast Success, Soap Collection Promotion, and Politics & Spiritual Formation

5min

The After Party: Fostering Hope and Humility in Political Discipleship

22min

Navigating Politics with Hope and Humility

8min

Navigating Media Consumption and Politics with a Faith-Focused Approach

3min

Atheist Richard Dawkins has said he doesn’t believe one word of the Christian faith, but he now considers himself a “cultural Christian” and wants to defend the Christian values of his country against the influence of Islam and immigrants. Does this represent an alignment between the New Atheists and Christian Nationalists? Curtis Chang shares about “The After Party”—the new curriculum he’s developed with David French and Russel Moore to help Christians focus on hope and humility rather than partisanship. Also this week, Mark Driscoll gets booted from a men’s conference. And another infraction by a Florida man with a Bible.

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0:00 - Intro

1:02 - Show Starts

3:02 - Theme Song

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4:35 - Florida Man Scales Tower with Bible

12:00 - Mark Driscoll Kicked Off Stage After Calling Sword-Swallower a “Jezebel Spirit”

22:35 - Richard Dawkins, the “Cultural Christian”

36:40 - Dusty Deavers, the Country Singin’ Senator

46:06 - Pray for the Middle East

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52:55 - Interview

1:04:34 - The “What” vs the “How”

1:16:26 - Four Quadrant of Political Engagement

1:27:19 - End Credits

Links Mentioned in the News Segment:

Florida Man Climbs Cell Phone Tower

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-miami-man-climbs-cell-phone-tower-disconnects-power-live-video-1886494

Sword-Swallower on a Pole and Mark Driscoll

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-kicked-stage-strip-show-1890247

Richard Dawkins and Cultural Christianity

https://christianitytoday.com/ct/2024/april-web-only/new-atheism-destroy-christianity-richard-dawkins.html

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The Holy Post

613: Driscoll, Dawkins, & Political Discipleship with Curtis Chang

Episode guests

Podcast summary created with Snipd AI

Quick takeaways

Deep dives

Filling the Void in Spiritual Formation

The After Party Curriculum

Navigating Political Engagement

Addressing the How, Not Just the What

Encouraging Spiritual Formation in the Church

Shifting Focus from 'What' to 'How' in Political Engagement

The New Spin on an Old Heresy

Respect for Different Faiths and Cultures

Hope and Humility Quadrant

Addressing Offense in Public Settings

Remember Everything You Learn from Podcasts