"The cave you most fear to enter holds the treasure you seek." -Joseph Campbell

A conversation with Suzanne Chang (Suzanne Non-duality on YouTube) about awakening/realization and the dissolution of the sense of a separate self that could stand apart from life. This is an audio-only conversation. Check out our prior video interview here. SPOILERS AHEAD for the Netflix show BEEF 😉

• On making YouTube videos and music when there’s no sense of self apart, the creative process
• The experience of watching Netflix’s BEEF from an awakening/spirituality perspective
• Holding emotion in the body and the energetics of allowing it to be expressed
• Repressed anger and road rage (a personal story)
• Is Zubin happy?
• Our last dinner when Suzanne visited with my wife and me
• (Insert dinner pictures)
• My wife’s awakening shift, conditioning and reactivity
• Spontaneous action post awakening and the nature of freedom
• Intense emotion and stillness
• Depression and “mood” pre-and-post awakening
• Mind identification vs. truly feeling the body
• Suzanne’s current experience of “emptying out” and the loss of the sense of a self apart
• When the helper personality type becomes hurtful
• Radical acceptance of how the body-mind IS
• That final episode of BEEF
• The role of surrender and total relinquishment 
• David Carse’s book “Perfect Brilliant Stillness” and reality as hologram 
• The primary importance of no-self realization (an energetic internal death) and going to the darkest places inside that intensify the seeking mechanism in the first place
• The nature of shame and “brokenness”
• Why the word “transmission” doesn’t sit well with Suzanne
• And more!

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