Many point to Sweden as evidence that lockdowns and school closures were unnecessary and harmful. But what actually happened in Sweden? David Steadson joins us to talk about Sweden's herd immunity strategy, government documents that show what really happened there in 2020, and the lasting population effects of long covid. David Steadson is a co-author of the paper "Evaluation of science advice during the COVID-19 pandemic in Sweden," published by Nature’s Journal of Humanities and Social Sciences Communications in March. You can read the full paper here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-022-01097-5 As always, support Death Panel at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod Pre-orders are now live for Bea and Artie's book! Pre-order HEALTH COMMUNISM here: bit.ly/3Af2YaJ Death Panel merch here (patrons get a discount code): www.deathpanel.net/merch join our Discord here: discord.com/invite/3KjKbB2