Better living through listening 👂🏾 Hrishikesh Hirway, Song Exploder
Aug 29, 2023
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Hrishikesh Hirway, musician and podcaster talks about his passion for understanding the creative process of songs and how it led him to create the Song Exploder podcast. They discuss the significance of curation, the balance between personal taste and audience appeal, and the role of human taste in the age of AI. Other topics include how songs are chosen for the podcast, cultivating listening skills, and favorite chocolate chip cookies.
Hrishikesh Hirway focuses on finding a great story behind a great song when selecting songs for Song Exploder, while also considering the overall balance and diversity of the podcast's content.
Rishikesh emphasizes the importance of actively engaging with music and developing discernible listening skills, suggesting making music a primary activity rather than a background element and listening to albums in their entirety to grasp the full context and experience an artist's creative journey.
Deep dives
Choosing Songs for Song Exploder
In selecting songs to feature on Song Exploder, Rishi Kesh focuses on finding a great story behind a great song, while also considering the overall balance and diversity of the podcast's content. He wants each episode to contribute to the larger body of work and aims to showcase a variety of genres, backgrounds, and stories.
Delving into the Creative Process
Rishi Kesh's personal interest in the creative process, sparked by his experience as a musician, led to the creation of Song Exploder. With the podcast, he seeks to learn and share insights on how artists create their music. By examining specific sound clips and lyrics, he invites artists to reflect on their creative decisions, fostering a deeper understanding of their work.
Cultivating Discernible Listening
Rishi Kesh emphasizes the importance of actively engaging with music and developing discernible listening skills. He suggests making music a primary activity rather than a background element and encourages listening to albums in their entirety to grasp the full context and experience an artist's creative journey.
The Art of Curation and Human Taste
Rishi Kesh believes that human taste remains essential in a tech-driven world. While algorithms rely on data mined from human activity, human curation adds a layer of thoughtfulness, richness, and unexpected discoveries. He strives to showcase a diverse range of music in Song Exploder to challenge preconceived notions and introduce people to new artists and genres.
“[Mixtapes were] the ultimate love letter because it’s like saying: ‘This is me looking at you and trying to understand where your taste lies and also imparting some of my taste. This is where we intersect.’ Maybe I can introduce you to new things while recognizing that I'm here in a context that I think you will appreciate.” — Hrishikesh Hirway, musician and podcaster
Being a musician led Hrishikesh Hirway on a quest to understand how songs are born, bit by bit. If he detected a cool sound or curious lyric, he wanted to know why it was there and how it was made. These excavations now form an impressive — and impeccably curated — body of work in his Song Exploder podcast and Netflix show.
Hrishikesh is also the creator, (co-)host and producer of multiple podcasts, including “The West Wing Weekly” and “Home Cooking” with Samin Nosrat. His TED Talk on how to listen to people to connect more deeply with them and their stories is a must-watch, and The New York Times called him “a devoted connoisseur of the creative process.”
What does Hrishikesh think about curation, creativity and taste? What is the right balance between imposing your own likes and catering to an audience? Is human taste still a thing? And what did we lose out on when we stopped making mixtapes?!
Other highlights, inspiration and key learnings from the conversation:
Which songs get the Song Exploder treatment (and why)
How he excavates an artist’s creative process
How any of us can cultivate our listening skills
What he’s learned about curation from being a musician and podcasting
His criteria for good curators
👋 Say "hi" to Hrishikesh. 🔎 Browse the companion Storyboard to get the episode, plus Hrishikesh’s own favorite culture picks. ➕ This podcast was created by Flipboard, the world’s first social magazine, where enthusiasts are curating stories they recommend across thousands of interests. Learn more.
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