Ashley Rogers Berner, director of the Johns Hopkins Institute for Education Policy, joins Oren for a discussion of educational pluralism: the key to ensuring choice and standards in K–12 schools. They survey the international landscape, trends in educational philosophies, and what it would look like to fully embrace a pluralistic model in the United States.

For more, check out Ashley's new book, Educational Pluralism and Democracy and the following pieces she's written for American Compass:

• Introducing Pluralism to Public Schooling
• A Sustainable Path to School Choice
• Make Good (School) Choices