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Dennis McKenna is the brother of Terrence McKenna and is an ethnopharmacologist / research pharmacognosist. His knowledge of psychedelics is extensive.

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LINKS MENTIONED:

- Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss (Dennis' book): https://amzn.to/3QmjzmT

- ETHNOPHARMACOLOGIC SEARCH FOR PSYCHOACTIVE DRUGS: https://espd55.com

- Dennis' website: https://mckenna.academy/

- Karl Friston TOE podcast (Cautions on Consciousness): https://youtu.be/SWtFU1Lit3M

TIMESTAMPS:

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:19 Dennis McKenna's working habits / quotidianness

00:03:49 "Hang up when you receive the message"

00:08:35 Psychedelics aren't meant to be taken isolated from community

00:13:22 Terrence, the family, and Brotherhood of the Screaming Abyss

00:18:46 Ethnopharmacologic Search for Psychoactive Drugs (ESPD)

00:27:49 MDMA's uses (and designer drugs)

00:40:31 Mycelium vs. fruiting bodies

00:46:03 Psychological metamorphosis without hallucinogens?

00:56:46 Staying "grounded" and not being "high" all the time

00:59:23 Terrence never found ground and got lost

01:12:13 Perils of investigations into consciousness

01:14:47 Gender differences in psychedelics

01:15:24 Love in disunity rather than pure "connectedness"

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