Made It Out

Just a "Phase" with Ali Saarela 

Nov 5, 2024
Ali Saarela, creator of the Just a 'Phase' card game, joins to explore deep connections through quirky questions. She delves into her coming out journey, emphasizing the importance of trusting one’s intuition. Ali shares her early fascination with queer-coded media and discusses her emotional empathy, including how often she cries. The conversation touches on her childhood signs of queerness and defines her pansexuality. With playful banter, they tackle rapid-fire dating scenarios, making self-discovery both insightful and fun!
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INSIGHT

Game Built Around Queer Journeys

  • Just a Phase is a queer-first get-to-know-you card game designed to map past, present, and future queer journeys.
  • The game uses 'phases' to prompt deeper conversations about identity and relationships.
INSIGHT

Trust Your Gut As A Compass

  • Coming out taught Mal to trust her gut and follow internal instincts despite external pressure.
  • She frames coming out as the culmination of earlier lessons about listening to one's body.
ANECDOTE

Early Media Crushes Mapped Attraction

  • Ali remembers being obsessed with the movie Stick It and feeling attracted to the female lead before she understood why.
  • She later recognized that early media crushes signaled queer attraction.
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