In the eighth episode of Mik + One, the official Project to Product podcast, Mik’s guest is Dean Leffingwell, Co-founder and Chief Methodologist at Scaled Agile.

In this episode, Mik and Dean cover:

• SAFe 5.0 and the importance of having business agility in addition to technical agility
• The different types of customers and understanding why internal customers are just as valuable and important as external ones
• Abandoning organizational hierarchies to become more agile and survive digital disruption, as well as other paths for organizations to take to achieve business agility
• Why teams must have autonomy but not be autonomous to successfully work within an organization that is scaling
• Why establishing a common taxonomy is critical to get people to think in terms of outcomes and delivering business value
• Advice to help organizations ensure a successful SAFe transformation by focusing on outcome-based metrics and an end-to-end feedback loop

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For more information about Dean Leffingwell, to view the full list of resources featured in this episode, and to download the episode transcript, visit:
https://projecttoproduct.org/podcast/dean-leffingwell/