Building an 8-Figure Autonomous Business Using AI Agents With Amos Bar Joseph [Ep.185]

Jul 29, 2025

Amos Bar Joseph, co-founder and CEO of Swan AI, is reshaping the business landscape by building an autonomous company with just three founders. He discusses how their AI agents lead to intelligent delegation rather than simple automation, boosting team effectiveness significantly. Amos also addresses the challenges of traditional fundraising, advocating for focusing on value creation. The conversation includes insights on the potential of single-person unicorns and the importance of maintaining trust with customers while leveraging AI technology.

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INSIGHT

Autonomous Businesses Scale Smarter

Traditional businesses scale by increasing headcount, which slows growth due to bureaucracy and inefficiency.
Autonomous businesses scale with intelligence, accelerating growth without adding unnecessary humans.

ADVICE

Empower Humans With AI Agents

Build AI agents around your human talent to make them 100x more effective.
Design AI to empower people, not replace them, for better customer journeys.

ANECDOTE

AI Support Agent 'Gloria' Success

Swan created Gloria, an AI support agent that autonomously answers many user inquiries.
Gloria escalates complex issues and learns from answers to improve over time, drastically reducing support costs.

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Traditionally, headcount equals scale. But in the age of AI, is this still true?

In this episode, we’re joined by Amos Bar Joseph, the co-founder of Swan AI, the first autonomous business. Their goal? Reaching $30 million in ARR with just three founders and a powerful fleet of AI agents.

Amos explains how he is building an enterprise-level business with just three employees, and how Swan AI’s autonomous business model is different from traditional AI-powered businesses.

While most companies simply bolt AI onto existing workflows to automate repetitive processes, Swan AI is designed around agentic workflows, where AI agents operate with memory, goals, and decision-making capabilities. It’s not just automation; it’s intelligent delegation.

Amos is quick to clarify: this isn’t about replacing humans, it’s about giving small teams superpowers. He explained how each agent is purpose-built to make their founders 100x more effective, by designing agents around them, rather than 1:1 replacing a hire.

Amos explains how to ensure your agents stay accurate and aligned with business objectives, avoiding ‘hallucinations’ and maintaining customer trust. He also shares when to stick with classic workflows and when to switch to agents for higher-level tasks.

We also tackle the provocative question: Is a one-person unicorn possible?

If you’re interested in building a smarter, leaner business using AI, this episode will challenge how you think about scale. Enjoy!

Topics Discussed in this episode:

What is an agentic workflow? (03:48)
Amos’s background and the origins of Swan AI (04:48)
How an autonomous business is different from an AI-powered business (08:45)
Why adding AI agents helps enhance employees, not replace them (13:43)
How Amos is building an enterprise-level business with just 3 employees (18:26)
How to control the AI agents’ context and accuracy (23:33)
The difference between AI automation and AI agents (28:44)
When to use automations and workflows vs AI agents (35:12)
The best resources for building your own AI agent (42:36)
Is a one-person unicorn possible? (45:08)

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