Carol Swain may not reflect the image some people have in mind when they think of an elite university professor. She is an African-American Christian Conservative who grew up in severe rural poverty to achieve success at the top of the academic ladder. Her story of personal accomplishment shines light on the power of perseverance in face of adversity. The values Carol pulls from her experience also lend a foundation to understanding her politics, her Christian faith and even her support of President Donald Trump. Hear Professor Swain tell her personal story and talk antiracism, Christianity and Trump in this episode of the Braver Angels Podcast. With John Wood, Jr.   www.braverangels.org   Follow on Social Media: @BraverAngels @CarolMSwain @JohnRWoodJr