

Episode 4824: Day 3 Of Government Shutdown Closing The Trap; Lies Of The Dems
Oct 3, 2025
Mark Caputo, a White House correspondent for Axios, dives into the consolidation of executive power and the implications of the government shutdown. Alex DeGrasse, a political commentator, analyzes emergency Medicaid spending and its impact on immigration. Mary Holland, a public-health advocate, raises concerns about public-private pharma partnerships and the influence of big companies like Pfizer. Together, they unravel the complexities behind the shutdown, political strategy, and the future of healthcare policy.
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Project 2025 Concentrates Executive Power
- Project 2025 aims to expand presidential control over the executive branch, including firing employees and impounding funds.
- Mary Holland and others warn this concentrates power and threatens democratic checks and balances.
Shutdown As A Leverageable Moment
- Stephen Bannon frames the shutdown as a "leverageable moment" to permanently deconstruct the administrative state.
- He argues personnel and program cuts now could make changes irreversible for decades.
Reporting Shows Systematic Consolidation
- Axios reporting documents systematic steps the administration is taking to consolidate control across agencies and policy areas.
- Marc Caputo and Bannon say decades of planning now meet political opportunity to execute those plans.