In this episode, I talk to Marcel van de Hoef, a journalist, coach, and podcaster. Marcel hosts The Meeting Strategist podcast and helps leaders to transmit their mission through mass communication formats. Everything he does has to do with communication, so we talk about power structures in conversations and namely in meetings and workshops.

In the show, Marcel shares how he raises awareness of the impact of power differences to reduce ineffective effects on conversations. We also speak about journalism, leadership, and how to use power for role modelling.

Don’t miss the part when Marcel shared his experience being an editor in chief at age 22 and what he would do differently today. The conversation will inspire you to reduce unproductive power in workshops to make them work.

Questions and Answers

[2:28] How did you get interested in the topic of power? What’s your story?

[12:01] How would you define “unproductive power differences”?

[14:33] How can we avoid the negative impact of power differences?

[16:05] So power differences are not necessarily tied to differences in a hierarchy?

[18:00] In the context of professional gatherings, how can you make participants become aware of such power differences?

[22:21] When you feel power differences, how can you get participants to share information without risking the safe space?

[27:27] Do you have a trick that helps those in power to lower their guards in meetings or workshops?

[33:01] What is the role of ego in power games?

[35:51] What is the magic ingredient that distinguishes a good from a bad meeting?

[38:18] How can you keep the balance between contributing, connecting and time boxing in a meeting with a tight agenda?

[47:26] If a listener just woke up and missed the core part of the show, what do you want them to remember?

Related links you may want to check out:

Marcel’s website, including his blog and podcast: www.meetingstrategist.org
Marcel’s mentor Mauk Mulder http://maukmulder.nl/ (in Dutch) and an article in English
Priya Parker’s book: The Art of Gathering
Celeste Headlee on Coaching for Leaders
Amy Edmondson’s case study of the Chilean mine rescue
Marcel’s conversation with Oscar Trimboli on Deep Listening
Dale Carnegie’s book: How to win friends and influence people
Marcel’s short blog about Dale Carnegie’s book
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