
Church Grammar Joshua Heavin and Caleb Wait on the Nicene Creed Among Protestants
Dec 3, 2025
Joshua Heavin, a theologian with a focus on the Trinity and creeds, and Caleb Wait, a commentator from Reformed circles, delve into the significance of the Nicene Creed across various Christian traditions. They discuss the origins of their Passages podcast, sharing frustrations with common myths about the Trinity. Heavin highlights the regular use of creeds in Anglicanism, while Wait reflects on their benefits in Presbyterian worship. Together, they explore the creed's role as a guardrail for devotion, emphasizing its lasting relevance in today's church.
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From Evangelical Silo To Fathers-Led Faith
- Joshua Heavin describes moving from evangelical silos to studying the Cappadocians and church fathers, which shaped his theology and led to Passages.
- He frames that study as practical and devotional, not merely academic, influencing his pastoral work.
Pitching A Narrative Podcast About Nicaea
- Caleb Wait recounts pitching a narrative, NPR-style church-history podcast and teaming with Joshua to tell the story of Nicaea.
- He ties his interest to escaping conspiratorial popular narratives and helping people appreciate orthodox history.
Creed Helped A Young Family Participate
- Caleb describes joining a PCA congregation that recited the Nicene Creed and how it helped his young family participate in worship.
- He shares that reciting the creed gave his wife a tangible way to join worship despite being preoccupied with their newborn.







