This episode goes everywhere—from low-grade spuddage and go-to bras to holiday riff-raff, frivolous TV, and rainbow lasagnes. Enjoy!

Plus, the voice of Come Dine with Me, Dave Lamb, joins us to celebrate 20 years of the show.

There won’t be a podcast episode tomorrow as Jane and Fi are off for their Barbican show.

The next book club pick has been announced! 'Eight Months on Ghazzah Street' is by Hilary Mantel.

If you want to contact the show to ask a question and get involved in the conversation then please email us: janeandfi@times.radio

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Podcast Producer: Eve Salusbury

Executive Producer: Rosie Cutler

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Welcome to the middle-aged women's world!