Ian King speaks to the chief UK policy director at the CBI - Matthew Fell - about how businesses will adapt to a 'new normal' once lockdown restrictions lift on July 19th. Plus, hear from Douglas McCabe - an expert in tech and publishing media from Enders Analysis - about how the family which founded the Daily Mail is considering making a bid to take the company private. And jewellery designer Theo Fennell joins the show to discuss why he's taken control of his company for the first time in 40 years.