In a competition for lousiest leader, it’s a toss up between Elon Musk and Rishi Sunak. Matt d’Ancona argues Sunak might actually be the worst Tory leader since the referendum - and that’s a pretty high bar! Meanwhile - how did the late, great Bill Kenwright summarise life at Everton FC to Matt Kelly? It was fairly pithy and to the point. All this and more as the Two Matts are joined by Pulitzer Prize winning journalist James Ball. Enjoy!

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Further reading/watching

The Pigeon Tunnel - "Errol Morris pulls back the curtain on the storied life and career of David Cornwell, the former spy known to the literary world as John le Carré"

The Other Pandemic - James Ball

The Right To Rule - Ben Riley-Smith

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