The Al Franken Podcast 216: Norm Ornstein on Another Terrible Week in D.C.
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Mar 23, 2025 
Political expert Norm Ornstein provides insightful commentary on the current turmoil in D.C. He discusses Trump's alarming executive order to dismantle the Department of Education and its dire implications for public education. The conversation dives into the fractures within the Democratic Party and criticizes Chuck Schumer's recent decisions. Ornstein also addresses America's shifting stance on Ukraine and the implications for global alliances. Get his take on the chaotic political landscape, and the urgent need for a cohesive Democratic strategy ahead of critical elections.
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Executive Order Limitations
- Trump's executive order instructs dismantling the Department of Education, but Congress must approve.
- He can't legally dismantle it, but he can cripple it with his executive authority.
Department of Education's Role
- The Department of Education funds special needs programs and school meals.
- A North Carolina study showed kids perform better on full stomachs.
Food Stamps and Test Scores
- A North Carolina study tracked kids' test performance relative to when they received food stamps.
- Kids performed significantly better after receiving food stamps, highlighting the importance of food security for learning.