
Enneagram and Marriage Men, Intimacy, & the Marriage They Really Want w/Eric MacDougall, 4, Evolved Marriage
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Dec 3, 2025 In a heartfelt conversation, Eric MacDougall, a men's marriage coach, explores the emotional disconnect many men face in relationships. He shares his own turning point when his wife expressed feeling loved but not in love, prompting him to confront his patterns of overworking and using sex as a substitute for intimacy. Eric discusses the importance of emotional leadership, nonsexual touch, and vulnerability in nurturing deeper connections. He offers practical tools like the reveal-and-request method to help couples cultivate lasting intimacy and passion.
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From Crisis To Evolved Marriage
- Eric and Kate started Evolved Marriage after their early marriage hit a boiling point despite outward success.
- They built the podcast to share messy, practical growth from their own recovery and tools that helped them rebuild trust.
Four Phases Of Deep Connection
- Long-term relationships progress through lust, romantic, attachment, then a rediscovery-of-self phase.
- Rediscovering self inside the relationship rekindles passion by adding healthy tension and differentiation.
Rediscover Self Without Leaving
- Do rediscover and express your sense of self while staying committed to the relationship.
- Accept short-term tension from being more yourself because it builds resilience and long-term passion.



