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Wicked: For Good with Winnie Holzman and Dana Fox

Dec 2, 2025
Winnie Holzman, playwright who co-created the Wicked musical, and Dana Fox, screenwriter of Cruella and co-adapter of Wicked, reflect on shaping Elphaba and Glinda. They discuss adapting the novel into stage and film, how themes of othering and empathy resonate today, choices about Dorothy and visual nods to the original, and the long collaborative process behind the scripts.
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INSIGHT

Collaboration Enlarges Creative Ownership

  • Collaboration expanded Winnie Holzman's sense of authorship beyond individual credit and created work larger than any one person.
  • She values the soul-level bond formed with Stephen Schwartz and later with Dana Fox and John Chu.
ANECDOTE

How The Characters Changed Dana Fox

  • Dana Fox describes how Elphaba taught her the power of vulnerability and Glinda taught her it's never too late to do the right thing.
  • She credits Winnie personally for changing her life through their collaboration.
INSIGHT

Reframe To Reveal Hidden Humanity

  • Wicked shifts the familiar Wizard of Oz story by asking audiences to look beneath the surface and cultivate compassion.
  • Reframing a known tale reveals hidden humanity and alters perception of characters labeled "other."
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