John gives an update on Senator Chris Van Hollen's visit with Kilmar Abrego-Garcia in El Salvador then he discusses Dr. Mehmet Oz being sworn-in as Trump's Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator at the White House. Plus, he talks about the death penalty in the U.S. on Good Friday. Then, he speaks with Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis who is the Senior Minister for Public Theology and Transformation at Middle Church in New York City’s East Village. They talk about politics and Easter. And then TV's Frank Conniff returns to laugh it up with John and listeners about the latest chaos in Trumpland and the event-filled Easter weekend.

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